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The Plight of Homeless Sex Offenders

Published November 18, 2009 @ 01:35PM PT

Last winter shelter season, my eyes were opened to the horrible plight of sex offenders living on the streets. Our street outreach team was called to find shelter for a man. He was a registered sex offender, so he wasn't allowed to stay at the winter shelter. He had done everything right, reported to the police and the shelter workers. But there was no shelter that would allow him to stay.

No matter what you think of the crimes this man committed, he had served his debt to society and was adhering to the terms of his punishment. Still, finding housing - even emergency shelter - proved nearly impossible.

Up until that time, I had rather a hard stance on this subject. I thought sex offenders were dangerous, a threat to society. Who cares if they have to continue paying for their crime once their jail time is up? But one look into this man's eyes gave me different point of view; he was so filled with hopelessness, so beaten down from trying to survive. It's a difficult memory.

I met Tim in Cleveland, Ohio. He's trying to make something of his life. But as a sex offender, it's nearly impossible for him to find the help he needs.

I don't know what Tim did to become a registered sex offender. But I believe an equally heinous crime might be our own society allowing people like him to suffer on the streets, sex offender or not.

Tim from InvisiblePeople.tv on Vimeo.

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Comments (19)

  1. I had to laugh when I watched the video and heard Tim say "they make it rough". Your buddy Tim here did 25 years in prison as a sex offender. I would venture to guess that his crimes must have been severe. I wonder if he was thinking about how "rough" he made it for his victim when he committed his crime. They asked Tim what his 3 wishes would be. I would have to assume that his victim's wish would be that she/he never met Tim. I would like to know exactly what Tim did his 25 years for. Is this another example of change.org advocating for a violent sex offense recidivist?

    Posted by Dennis G. on 11/18/2009 @ 09:32PM PT

  2. Honest  Opinion

    Dennis, I do not know Tim or what crime he was convicted for but, I do know things are not always what they seem. The question here why are these laws making citizen homeless after their sanctions for their crime has been satisfied? Here are my thoughts:  

    1. You say Tim was sentenced to 25 years.: Sometimes a person with an average intelligence would find someone's sentence questionable and over the top. Like Adam's sentence of 10 yrs. for taking a 6 pack of beer: http://www.adambollenback.com/ , I find it disturbing! Brandon 60 years for consensual peer sex, www.freebrandon.org or Genarlow Wilson, consensual oral sex equal 10 years in adult prison ; he was finally saved, most youthful offenders are not. These young boys were all juveniles and according to juvenile justice good candidates for positive rehabilitation. Sex offenders are exclude.
    2. Did Tim get a fair trial and what was the evidence. : Have you ever heard of the Innocence Project? Stories of people doing years in prison actually innocent?  Thirty-three states restrict the time for post-trial submission of DNA evidence to six months or less. One story I find interesting is Texas' version of Megan's Law's was in honor of Ashley, a child murdered in Texas. In 1993, Michael Blair was convicted as Ashley's killer, imprisoned, named a predator and now exonerated! The real killer walk around free?
    3. Think about redemption! Is this man the same person? Does his victim forgive and it's society that is holding the grudge? While politicians
    re sentenced him to a life of disrepair , banishment and homelessness? 4. Tim conviction was before these laws? In this country we have what's known as, The Constitution! With a clause called ex post factor! Sex offender laws violate this concept and allowed our government to deny many citizen's of their constitutional rights. Many citizen's are retroactively listed for the sack of politics. It is not a matter of public safety when a law is based on a past conviction and not currant status. America is "NO" longer a Country that can be trusted to follow the rules of our nation, beware!
    5. By Law, the consequences, unintended or NOT,  for any wrongdoing should be reasonable and proportional to the severity of the infraction. The "Catch all" mass accumulation of past and present citizen gathered by these emotionally fueled sex offender laws is mind boggling! The discriminating harsh registration policies, guidelines, restriction, the sense of never ending captivity and numerous indictable offenses required of  freed human being is unconscionable and inhumane! Especially, when these hate fueled laws have numerous and unreasonable restrictions, confusing guidelines and strict boundaries that influences noncompliance and instigates arrest as a means to free communities and imprison the undesired citizens. In many cases of sexually associated offenses the outcome of these so called civil regulations is grossly disproportionate to the original offense. In this country it is unlawful for laws to cause total destruction of the individual's status in an organized society.
     6. It is an travesty of justice to force citizens to be homeless, unemployed, irredeemable and banished from society. It against American Standards of decency, civil rights and human rights.  This country demands that any human being that is detained in our prison system must be afforded basic care, fair treatment and efforts are made to rehabilitate and training for rentry.  But,  "FREE" people who served their debt to society are denied these same rights. How is it even possible that a court of law set the time in which a person must serve before regaining their freedom and the politician can pass laws that actually  re sentence that person for that same crime to be registered, hunted, monitored, tracked and  banished.  You believe it's acceptable, In this Country? I say, NO ! 
    7. Let's not forget "ALL" sex offender registration and community notification laws are based on crimes of MURDER and named after the victims; Megan, Jacob, Jessica and now, Adam. Megan's Law originated in NJ in 1994 named after Megan Kanka who was kidnapped and murdered.   

    President Clinton signed Jacob Wetterling Crimes Against Children and Sexually Violent Offender Registration Program, also known as Megan's Law.  This Program created the national sexual offender database, in which the states are required to participate. ( federal law requires states to register former offenders convicted of certain offenses, it does not limit states’ authority to increase the number of offenses that trigger registration or the duration of the requirement to register.  Federal grants were based on state's need, the more sex offenders the more federal grant money had some influence as registration is not limited to offenders who pose a significant risk of committing another serious crime.)

    The disgust with those who actually committed heinous and violent sex crimes influenced the laws but, pandering politicians to gain votes, favoritism and to look tough on crime, exploited a child's murder as their platform is what caused the sex offender hysteria, massive dysfunctional and costly registry. The Hugh array of registrable offenses and the numerous consequences the registrant must abide to. Leaders naming "All" registrants dangerous predators and pedophiles, knowing the majority of their constituent's sexual offenses do not support these definitions. Knowing in many sexually related registerable cases there is no just cause for alarm or reasonable concerns of a future threat to society, especially the threat of murdering someone's child. Remembering the original concept of the law started out as a tool for parents to protect their children from being murdered by a known dangerous predator living in their neighborhood.  
    How things have changed, I sometimes think how ironic is it when so many of our immature and vulnerable youthful citizen are actually being caught up in these laws from numerous registrable sexual offenses including consensual, non violent, minor and no contact offenses, being portrayed as irredeemable dangerous sexual predators by a law signed by President Clinton, who obtained pleasure in the oval office and was viewed on National television stating his oral sex experience was not a sexual relationship?   

    With over 674,000+ citizens now registered under these laws,"All" being held hostage to conform to all future and past retroactive laws being devised by abusive government powers, is destroying the entire system, which they are responsible to govern. Knowing the majority of their constituents listed as sex offenders behaviors are not consistent with the purpose of these laws.  Knowing as the result of their actions, Millions of our citizen are suffering, as past offenders, as their off springs, as spouses, as children, as siblings, as parents,  it's intolerable and frightening! The male gender seems to be under attack as demonstrated in a study by "The Vera institute of Justice"  which claims 1 in 160 males in the U.S. are registered sex offenders: http://www.vera.org/content/pursuit-safety-sex-offender-policy-united-states  Ranging form 8-80 years old , what's in the future?

     

      It's time to fix this mess! Reform Sex Offender Laws :  http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/statement.php

     

    Posted by Honest Opinion on 11/20/2009 @ 02:09AM PT

  3. Reply to thread
  4. Rose Sieniawski

    THIS IS IN REPLY TO DENNIS G.'S COMMENT.  I FEEL I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT, I AM A SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL ABUSE.  BOTH THE VICTIM AND THEIR ATTACKER NEED HELP.  WHAT THIS MAN DID IS WRONG, AND I AGREE, IT IS A PAINFUL EXPERIENCE.  BUT THE MAIN OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO PREVENT ANOTHER CRIME FROM TAKING PLACE.  BOTH, ARE IN NEED OF COUNSELING AND A HEALING PROCESS NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.  KEEPING THIS MAN ON THE STREET IS NOT GOING TO HELP HEAL THE VICTIM, IN FACT, IT MIGHT CAUSE ANOTHER CRIME, ESPECIALLY IF THE SEXUAL OFFENDER IS NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE TO CHANGE HIS WAYS FOR LIFE. 

    Posted by Rose Sieniawski on 11/19/2009 @ 04:53PM PT

  5. Honest  Opinion

    Dennis, I do not know Tim or what crime he was convicted for but, I do know things are not always what they seem. The question here why are these laws making citizen homeless after their sanctions for their crime has been satisfied? Here are my thoughts:  

    1. You say Tim was sentenced to 25 years.: Sometimes a person with an average intelligence would find someone's sentence questionable and over the top. Like Adam's sentence of 10 yrs. for taking a 6 pack of beer: http://www.adambollenback.com/ , I find it disturbing! Brandon 60 years for consensual peer sex, www.freebrandon.org or Genarlow Wilson, consensual oral sex equal 10 years in adult prison ; he was finally saved, most youthful offenders are not. These young boys were all juveniles and according to juvenile justice good candidates for positive rehabilitation. Sex offenders are exclude.
    2. Did Tim get a fair trial and what was the evidence. : Have you ever heard of the Innocence Project? Stories of people doing years in prison actually innocent?  Thirty-three states restrict the time for post-trial submission of DNA evidence to six months or less. One story I find interesting is Texas' version of Megan's Law's was in honor of Ashley, a child murdered in Texas. In 1993, Michael Blair was convicted as Ashley's killer, imprisoned, named a predator and now exonerated! The real killer walk around free?
    3. Think about redemption! Is this man the same person? Does his victim forgive and it's society that is holding the grudge? While politicians
    re sentenced him to a life of disrepair , banishment and homelessness? 4. Tim conviction was before these laws? In this country we have what's known as, The Constitution! With a clause called ex post factor! Sex offender laws violate this concept and allowed our government to deny many citizen's of their constitutional rights. Many citizen's are retroactively listed for the sack of politics. It is not a matter of public safety when a law is based on a past conviction and not currant status. America is "NO" longer a Country that can be trusted to follow the rules of our nation, beware!
    5. By Law, the consequences, unintended or NOT,  for any wrongdoing should be reasonable and proportional to the severity of the infraction. The "Catch all" mass accumulation of past and present citizen gathered by these emotionally fueled sex offender laws is mind boggling! The discriminating harsh registration policies, guidelines, restriction, the sense of never ending captivity and numerous indictable offenses required of  freed human being is unconscionable and inhumane! Especially, when these hate fueled laws have numerous and unreasonable restrictions, confusing guidelines and strict boundaries that influences noncompliance and instigates arrest as a means to free communities and imprison the undesired citizens. In many cases of sexually associated offenses the outcome of these so called civil regulations is grossly disproportionate to the original offense. In this country it is unlawful for laws to cause total destruction of the individual's status in an organized society.
     6. It is an travesty of justice to force citizens to be homeless, unemployed, irredeemable and banished from society. It against American Standards of decency, civil rights and human rights.  This country demands that any human being that is detained in our prison system must be afforded basic care, fair treatment and efforts are made to rehabilitate and training for rentry.  But,  "FREE" people who served their debt to society are denied these same rights. How is it even possible that a court of law set the time in which a person must serve before regaining their freedom and the politician can pass laws that actually  re sentence that person for that same crime to be registered, hunted, monitored, tracked and  banished.  You believe it's acceptable, In this Country? I say, NO ! 
    7. Let's not forget "ALL" sex offender registration and community notification laws are based on crimes of MURDER and named after the victims; Megan, Jacob, Jessica and now, Adam. Megan's Law originated in NJ in 1994 named after Megan Kanka who was kidnapped and murdered.   

    President Clinton signed Jacob Wetterling Crimes Against Children and Sexually Violent Offender Registration Program, also known as Megan's Law.  This Program created the national sexual offender database, in which the states are required to participate. ( federal law requires states to register former offenders convicted of certain offenses, it does not limit states’ authority to increase the number of offenses that trigger registration or the duration of the requirement to register.  Federal grants were based on state's need, the more sex offenders the more federal grant money had some influence as registration is not limited to offenders who pose a significant risk of committing another serious crime.)

    The disgust with those who actually committed heinous and violent sex crimes influenced the laws but, pandering politicians to gain votes, favoritism and to look tough on crime, exploited a child's murder as their platform is what caused the sex offender hysteria, massive dysfunctional and costly registry. The Hugh array of registrable offenses and the numerous consequences the registrant must abide to. Leaders naming "All" registrants dangerous predators and pedophiles, knowing the majority of their constituent's sexual offenses do not support these definitions. Knowing in many sexually related registerable cases there is no just cause for alarm or reasonable concerns of a future threat to society, especially the threat of murdering someone's child. Remembering the original concept of the law started out as a tool for parents to protect their children from being murdered by a known dangerous predator living in their neighborhood.  
    How things have changed, I sometimes think how ironic is it when so many of our immature and vulnerable youthful citizen are actually being caught up in these laws from numerous registrable sexual offenses including consensual, non violent, minor and no contact offenses, being portrayed as irredeemable dangerous sexual predators by a law signed by President Clinton, who obtained pleasure in the oval office and was viewed on National television stating his oral sex experience was not a sexual relationship?   

    With over 674,000+ citizens now registered under these laws,"All" being held hostage to conform to all future and past retroactive laws being devised by abusive government powers, is destroying the entire system, which they are responsible to govern. Knowing the majority of their constituents listed as sex offenders behaviors are not consistent with the purpose of these laws.  Knowing as the result of their actions, Millions of our citizen are suffering, as past offenders, as their off springs, as spouses, as children, as siblings, as parents,  it's intolerable and frightening! The male gender seems to be under attack as demonstrated in a study by "The Vera institute of Justice"  which claims 1 in 160 males in the U.S. are registered sex offenders: http://www.vera.org/content/pursuit-safety-sex-offender-policy-united-states  Ranging form 8-80 years old , what's in the future?

     

      It's really time to fix this mess! RefoHonest Opinionrm Sex Offender Laws :  http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/statement.php

     

    Posted by Honest Opinion on 11/20/2009 @ 02:07AM PT

  6. Honest  Opinion

    Dennis, I do not know Tim or what crime he was convicted for but, I do know things are not always what they seem. The question here why are these laws making citizen homeless after their sanctions for their crime has been satisfied? Here are my thoughts:  

    1. You say Tim was sentenced to 25 years.: Sometimes a person with an average intelligence would find someone's sentence questionable and over the top. Like Adam's sentence of 10 yrs. for taking a 6 pack of beer: http://www.adambollenback.com/ , I find it disturbing! Brandon 60 years for consensual peer sex, www.freebrandon.org or Genarlow Wilson, consensual oral sex equal 10 years in adult prison ; he was finally saved, most youthful offenders are not. These young boys were all juveniles and according to juvenile justice good candidates for positive rehabilitation. Sex offenders are exclude.
    2. Did Tim get a fair trial and what was the evidence. : Have you ever heard of the Innocence Project? Stories of people doing years in prison actually innocent?  Thirty-three states restrict the time for post-trial submission of DNA evidence to six months or less. One story I find interesting is Texas' version of Megan's Law's was in honor of Ashley, a child murdered in Texas. In 1993, Michael Blair was convicted as Ashley's killer, imprisoned, named a predator and now exonerated! The real killer walk around free?
    3. Think about redemption! Is this man the same person? Does his victim forgive and it's society that is holding the grudge? While politicians
    re sentenced him to a life of disrepair , banishment and homelessness? 4. Tim conviction was before these laws? In this country we have what's known as, The Constitution! With a clause called ex post factor! Sex offender laws violate this concept and allowed our government to deny many citizen's of their constitutional rights. Many citizen's are retroactively listed for the sack of politics. It is not a matter of public safety when a law is based on a past conviction and not currant status. America is "NO" longer a Country that can be trusted to follow the rules of our nation, beware!
    5. By Law, the consequences, unintended or NOT,  for any wrongdoing should be reasonable and proportional to the severity of the infraction. The "Catch all" mass accumulation of past and present citizen gathered by these emotionally fueled sex offender laws is mind boggling! The discriminating harsh registration policies, guidelines, restriction, the sense of never ending captivity and numerous indictable offenses required of  freed human being is unconscionable and inhumane! Especially, when these hate fueled laws have numerous and unreasonable restrictions, confusing guidelines and strict boundaries that influences noncompliance and instigates arrest as a means to free communities and imprison the undesired citizens. In many cases of sexually associated offenses the outcome of these so called civil regulations is grossly disproportionate to the original offense. In this country it is unlawful for laws to cause total destruction of the individual's status in an organized society.
     6. It is an travesty of justice to force citizens to be homeless, unemployed, irredeemable and banished from society. It against American Standards of decency, civil rights and human rights.  This country demands that any human being that is detained in our prison system must be afforded basic care, fair treatment and efforts are made to rehabilitate and training for rentry.  But,  "FREE" people who served their debt to society are denied these same rights. How is it even possible that a court of law set the time in which a person must serve before regaining their freedom and the politician can pass laws that actually  re sentence that person for that same crime to be registered, hunted, monitored, tracked and  banished.  You believe it's acceptable, In this Country? I say, NO ! 
    7. Let's not forget "ALL" sex offender registration and community notification laws are based on crimes of MURDER and named after the victims; Megan, Jacob, Jessica and now, Adam. Megan's Law originated in NJ in 1994 named after Megan Kanka who was kidnapped and murdered.   

    President Clinton signed Jacob Wetterling Crimes Against Children and Sexually Violent Offender Registration Program, also known as Megan's Law.  This Program created the national sexual offender database, in which the states are required to participate. ( federal law requires states to register former offenders convicted of certain offenses, it does not limit states’ authority to increase the number of offenses that trigger registration or the duration of the requirement to register.  Federal grants were based on state's need, the more sex offenders the more federal grant money had some influence as registration is not limited to offenders who pose a significant risk of committing another serious crime.)

    The disgust with those who actually committed heinous and violent sex crimes influenced the laws but, pandering politicians to gain votes, favoritism and to look tough on crime, exploited a child's murder as their platform is what caused the sex offender hysteria, massive dysfunctional and costly registry. The Hugh array of registrable offenses and the numerous consequences the registrant must abide to. Leaders naming "All" registrants dangerous predators and pedophiles, knowing the majority of their constituent's sexual offenses do not support these definitions. Knowing in many sexually related registerable cases there is no just cause for alarm or reasonable concerns of a future threat to society, especially the threat of murdering someone's child. Remembering the original concept of the law started out as a tool for parents to protect their children from being murdered by a known dangerous predator living in their neighborhood.  
    How things have changed, I sometimes think how ironic is it when so many of our immature and vulnerable youthful citizen are actually being caught up in these laws from numerous registrable sexual offenses including consensual, non violent, minor and no contact offenses, being portrayed as irredeemable dangerous sexual predators by a law signed by President Clinton, who obtained pleasure in the oval office and was viewed on National television stating his oral sex experience was not a sexual relationship?   

    With over 674,000+ citizens now registered under these laws,"All" being held hostage to conform to all future and past retroactive laws being devised by abusive government powers, is destroying the entire system, which they are responsible to govern. Knowing the majority of their constituents listed as sex offenders behaviors are not consistent with the purpose of these laws.  Knowing as the result of their actions, Millions of our citizen are suffering, as past offenders, as their off springs, as spouses, as children, as siblings, as parents,  it's intolerable and frightening! The male gender seems to be under attack as demonstrated in a study by "The Vera institute of Justice"  which claims 1 in 160 males in the U.S. are registered sex offenders: http://www.vera.org/content/pursuit-safety-sex-offender-policy-united-states  Ranging form 8-80 years old , what's in the future?

     

      It's time to fix this mess! Reform Sex Offender Laws :  http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/statement.php

    Posted by Honest Opinion on 11/20/2009 @ 02:08AM PT

  7. Dave Smith

    Anyone who wants to fight all the INJUSTICES associated with the huge sweep of new laws targeting anyone who is able to be labeled a Sex Offender, come to our site and register to get our newsletters.

    Also, if you register, you will be able to advertise your efforts to change these laws.

    We welcome all who are fighting these unconstitutional laws.

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    Posted by Dave Smith on 11/22/2009 @ 12:22PM PT

  8. Dave Smith

    The Raping of the American People by the United States Government

     

    Tracy Velazquez, executive director of the Washington-based Justice Policy Institute and author of a report, “The Pursuit of Safety: Sex Offender Policy in the United States,’’ said “If the purpose of all these new sex offender laws applied retroactively, (Unconstitutionally) is to continue to punish and effectively banish people after they’ve done their time and paid their debt to society, then most of these new laws are pretty effective policy,’’ she said. “If they are to increase public safety, then banning registered sex offenders from whole cities, counties, churches and homeless shelters is counterproductive. It will make it harder for law enforcement to keep track of their whereabouts, and harder for them to meet their basic human needs, which in turn makes it harder for them to live successfully in the community.’’ She and others said research shows there’s no link between where sex offenders live and whether they commit new crimes.

    Continually creating, funding, promoting and upholding laws which serve no purpose in making society more safe, banish the offender to a life of homelesness and starvation, ostracize the offender's children and family and cost the tax payers millions of dollars.

    Referrences:

    Video by Congressman Bobby Scott on Sex Offender Registration Notification Act

    Report:

    The Pursuit of Safety: Sex Offender Policy in the United States
    Same video on You Tube

    Another video by a 14 year old boy who has his life ruined by Retroactive Sex Offender Laws

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNiGZ6uV5iM

    I would love tell your story to the Millions of visitors we have to our website. Contact us.

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    Posted by Dave Smith on 11/22/2009 @ 12:45PM PT

  9. Dave Smith

    Media creators for years have been creating, mass marketing and promoting movies which depict graphics scenes of Rape Murder and Dismemberment.
    Americans were led into their hunger for these mind polluting perversions gradually as society gleefully accepted anything which Hollywood produced.
    What would have been rejected and created an outcry for decency just a few decades ago, is now widely accepted and proclaimed to be Entertaining.
    Just a few of the top sellers at the Box Office listed below...
    Natural Born Killers, SAW, LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT, THE HILLS HAVE EYES, SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE, HIGH TENSION, HOSTEL, TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE, and the list could go on for ever...

    These movies MADE MILLIONS for Hollywood. These movies depict violence and sex, and sexual violence...
    My question. When will Americans and our Federal Communications Commission say ENOUGH and realize making laws to punish those who rape and murder is like telling a cancer patient to take two aspirins and call me in the morning.

    We have to get at the root of the problem. To stop any further creations of serial rapists and murderers, we need to STOP THE SEX AND VIOILENCE IN THE MEDIA... Get back to Wholesome Family Values.
    Your thoughts are welcomed. Category:  Entertainment ?
    Tags:  Natural Born Killers  SAW  LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT  THE HILLS HAVE EYES  SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE  HIGH TENSION  HOSTEL  TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE 

    Watch the Video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdiG-2mApoA

    Posted by Dave Smith on 11/22/2009 @ 12:52PM PT

  10. Shawna Burt

    Sex offenders, when they commit their crimes, aren't harming the victim just for the moment, or for the few years they end up incarcerated. The victim has to live with that assault FOR LIFE. Why should the sex offender get any less than a life sentence?

    Posted by Shawna Burt on 11/23/2009 @ 12:27AM PT

  11. Dave Smith

    Well, you have a point there.

    I must however bring up 2 points.

    1. All victims of all crimes carry it with them for life.

    When a drunk driver in his or her snockerd state crosses the centerline and plows into a car carrying a family of 6, killing 4 and leaving 2 paralyzed for life. Those victims are scarred for life.

    When the person who c reaps into homes at night, and robs a family of their life savings. Those victims carry it for the rest of their lives.

    When the crooked politician, in an effort to garner the votes of the people, writes, promotes and gets passed legislation which wreaks havoc on the people. Banishing some to a lifetime of homelessness and misery, those scars are felt for the rest of their lives.

    We, as human beings have the ability to retain memories. What we do with those memories is the deciding factor in how the outcome of our lives will turn out.

    2. Many who are labeled sex offender never did have a victim. The 9 year old boy who played doctor with his 3 8 year old friends and got caught up in the Criminal Injustice System.. now a lifetime sex offender. The 15 year old boy, who got caught having sex with his 12 year old girl friend.. for the very first time in his life, now a lifetime sex offender. The man, who when he was 19, 30 years ago, had sex with his 15 year old girl friend..., caught a probation charge, served that in the first year and was done with it. Married the girl, and now, in 30 years later he is told he is now a sex offender.. his whole life devastated. The 16 year old girl, who in a hastily made decision, gave oral sex to her friend in a darkend school room during a movie in science class, now a registered sex offender for LIFE.

    So, please, go study a little bit before you talk about victims. The real victims here are those who are caught up in the barbaric, inhumane and unconstitutional laws coming out of the greed for power of politicians. Many of which who are creating these laws end up getting caught having sex with little congressional aids, you know them.. Mark Foley, and many others... Let's talk about Mark Lunsford..caught with Child Pornography, but as they do in Florida, he was protected... Florida knows how to protect their own.

    These laws are wrong. Time will show you, these laws hurt countless thousands of men, women and children.. real victims.. of legislation gone wrong.

    www.cfcamerica.org  Fighting around the clock for the poor, working class Americans who are being bullied by the power hungry and corrupt politicians, law makers and Law Enforcement agents across this now Nazi Concentration camp called, America.

     

     

    Posted by Dave Smith on 11/23/2009 @ 01:38AM PT

  12. Shawna Burt

    I'm gonna wager you're white, male, and have never been abused or raped.... amirite?

    My abuser got a slap on the wrist. I got a life sentence in the prison of my own mind. I have flashbacks. I'm slowly relearning that touch is a good thing. I STILL can't have anyone -- even friends or family members -- come up on me from behind. Unless you've BEEN there, you have no fucking CLUE what it's like living this life sentence. Sex offenders... oh, hell, let's call them what they are: RAPISTS don't change. Ever.

    On the other hand, we're locking up children and teens for having consensual sex because of a year, two years, age difference, and that's just silly.

    The (in)justice system needs to draw a clear line between the two groups.

    Adult sex offenders (rapists and/or child molesters) need to be locked away for life; they cannot be trusted.

    Teenagers who had sex with their partners... dude, consensual sex isn't a crime! These children should be educated on how to prevent disease and pregnancy, counseled on age differences, and let go.

    Posted by Shawna Burt on 11/23/2009 @ 02:19AM PT

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  14. Dave Smith

     

    I am sorry to hear the experience you went through. I cannot relate to what happened to you as it has not happened to me. I can only imagine.

    That is why I am fighting daily to get all the sex and violence banned from the media.

    With the anger you have towards those who rape and molest, you would be an awesome fighter to help win the battle of getting all the sex and violence stricken from television, theaters, electronic games and the Internet.

    If a person has it in their hearts to rape, rob, molest or do any crime, nobody can stop them if they set their mind to it, so what do we do?

    I will tell you what we do. We work on changing how people think. The best way to do that is to target educating Children. Children is the way to change America.

    The children of America have been pumped full of raw sewage from Hollywood for decades, 20, 30, 40 years now. These shows are turning out children who grow to be adults who glorify rape and murder. Look at the movie list... Last house on the left is a movie about a group of people out in the woods, being raped and murdered by some crazies. There is a huge list of movies and television shows which depict rape, molestation and murder.. THAT IS ENTERTAINMENT.

    Look at this video, it starts off talking about punishing people who committed 1 sex crime 20 or 30 years ago, but then it has an excerpt from Last House on the Left, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdiG-2mApoA

    These types of movies produce rapists and murderers. That is what Cfc America is fighting every day to change. Stop the ENTERTAINMENT of rape and murder being pumped into our children.

    Making laws which banish people into homelessness is not going to change anything or make anyone safer. Not in a million years. We have to change how people view other people.

    That is why we so desperately need God and all He teaches us to be woven into every part of our lives. Our Government, Our Schools, Our Work Place, Our lives totally.

    God teaches us to love God first, and Others as our selves. Nobody can rape anyone or molest them if they love them. That is what God and the Bible is all about, teaching us how to love one another and love HIM.

    I will say this to you, you have to let go of the hate and and anger that you feel for what happened to you. It will consume you. It will rule your life if you do not let it go.

    I cannot know what you know, but you also are at a disadvantage as you have not been through what I have been through. I too have been through a LOT. You have no clue. I cannot tell you here in an open web page but I tell you this, I can relate to what you have been through.

    You will never go forward until you resolve in your self the hatred for for the person who harmed you.

    A verse in the Bible which helps me a lot,

    Thy Word is a lamp to my feet, A light to my path alway, To guide and to save me from sin, And show me the heavenly way.
    I must ask, have you ever asked Jesus Christ to come into your life?

    Posted by Dave Smith on 11/23/2009 @ 10:23AM PT

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  16. Monica Zurawiecki

    A functioning justice system will do a psychological assessment of a sex offender to determine whether they are likely to commit another sexual offense. If our justice system had decided a person has served their debt and is not likely to commit another sexual offense, then we need to honor that and stop punishing the person. They shouldn't be deprived of the basic human rights of food, water, and shelter if our system of justice has decided they've paid their debt.

    There are certain people who can't be rehabilitated; there are certain people who can be. I think the issue is that if a sexual felon is found to be habitual and poses any risk to society, they shouldn't be allowed out of prison, period. Then we won't be faced with the situation we're discussing here.

    Just food for thought - in my state (NJ), people who commit statutory rape have to register as sex offenders, usually for life. I saw a case where a 19yr old had to register for the rest of his life because he had consensual sex with a 15yr old. The parents of the girl pursued the charges. I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve to be punished, but can we justify him being denied access to a homeless shelter when he's an old man because of an offense he committed when he was practically a kid?

    The sex offender registry laws are unconsitutional because they are overly broad. Too many people are swept up in the registries (someone mentioned this above, but I don't want to agree with his post because he called the USA a Nazi concentration camp).

    Posted by Monica Zurawiecki on 11/24/2009 @ 08:33PM PT

  17. Michael H

    Monica, I applaud you.  Your very first paragraph is bang on correct.  The key word is  "functioning" justice system.  Most of our justice systems are not functioning, especially the prison and parole system. 

    As a registered sex offender, only 4 months out of prison, I am feeling the effects of these broad, cloudy laws.  I can stay at none of the 3 homeless shelters in my city, not even the Christian Rescue Mission, who's goals it is is to provide shelter for men (and men only), and offer them the Word of God should they choose to hear it.  However, my soul is not welcome, they only want to save the convenient souls evidently.  Their neighbors will not allow them to save my soul, or any other sex offender who is living on the streets.  They have caved into societal pressure that is brought up by hysterical masses, hyped by media and political personalities for ratings or votes.

    My crime was committed while I was seriously mentally ill.  I had no choice in my crime, my mental processes were not under my concious control.  I WAS responsible for the choices that led up to that state though, and I accept responsibility for that, and also for the acts themselves.  However, the combonation of circumstances that led to my crimes would almost never happen again, especially since I have educated myself as to HOW to keep it from happening again in my prison Sexual Offender rehabilitation program.  I take medication for the depression, keep a close eye on my stress levels, and have changed my thinking about many of the preconceptions I had that caused me to need to sexually offend in a desperate attempt to exert control in my life.  My chance of reoffending is actually LESS than the chance of the average American male offending for the first time.  Yet even so, I am classified as a level 3 offender, must register for life, cannot find a job anywhere, even jobs that have NOTHING to do with children. 

    I did what I thought was right.  I turned myself in once my mental illness abated enough for me to do that.  I got help for my victim.  I got help for myself.  I paid my debts to society in my years in prison.  I should now be allowed to at least TRY to put my life back together.  I did not want to be a sex offender.  I still don't want to be.  I just want to be a useful, contributing member of society.

     

    Posted by Michael H on 01/26/2010 @ 12:44PM PT

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  19. Shawna Burt

    *sigh* Reposting because SOME PEOPLE are overly sensitive to "profanity".

     

    The issue isn't sex and violence in the media. That's not the problem. The problem is PEOPLE, who feel that they can treat other people in such a subhuman way.

    And please, don't turn this into an attempt to proselytize. I've been there and done that, your "god" did NOTHING for me. In fact, it was being a Christan, and believing the Bible, that set me up to be abused.

    If you don't like what's shown in movies and on television, you can simply CHANGE THE CHANNEL, or TURN IT OFF.

     

    Posted by Shawna Burt on 11/25/2009 @ 02:54AM PT

  20. Heather Hay

    OK yes there need to be changes in the justice system.  If you look at the sex offenders database and find out one of your neighbors is on the list then you don't let your kids outside without watching them.  Is the neighbor nice?  was it just a misunderstanding in his past?  Find out.

    But the list is there for a reason.  To give people a heads up, just in case. 

    I agree children need to be taught and there is a severe lack of parents doing that right now.  Too many are trying to keep from loosing the roof over their heads to take the time to monitor what the kids are watching or doing.  or they just don't care.

    On the other hand if the guy that raped me needed a couch for the night because of a blizzard outside...He would be sleeping in a snow drift.  I would give my ex a bed for the night before someone on the sex offenders list.  Maybe if it was an all male facility then he could use the shelter but if there were families there no way would he be allowed in.  This statement "If a person has it in their hearts to rape, rob, molest or do any crime, nobody can stop them if they set their mind to it, so what do we do?" says it all.  The way to stop them is to not give them the chance in the first place by keeping them away from the temptation and hope they don't find some unsuspecting person on the streets.  A catch 22...

    Posted by Heather Hay on 12/07/2009 @ 09:49AM PT

  21. Janet E

    What the ironic twist is, people who were victims of sexual abuse when they were too young to know what was happening to them are now accused of offending the people who offended them in the first place. When do we stop this repeated cycle of abuse. The most important object lesson to be taken  from all this is to stop the businesses that give the opportunity for people to abuse women, men, and children. Unfortunately the victims are the ones who were and are the most oppressed and those are the ones who they take advantage of because they know there are very limited resources of help available to them. Sex offenders need shelter from the storm, counseling, and a means of support in the real world so they don't offend again. Separate shelters from the women and children they abused, giving both the abuser and the abused a way to heal.

    Just my own 2 cents,

    Janet

    Posted by Janet E on 12/12/2009 @ 07:58AM PT

  22. Shawna Burt

    Janet, the second a SO rapes or molests a victim, they have given up ANY right to remain in society, and ANY right to community support. Lock 'em up. Throw away the key. Let them rape each other, if they like rape so much. I can tell you from personal experience that they WILL offend again, if released into society, "shelter... counseling, and a means of support" or not.

    Posted by Shawna Burt on 12/12/2009 @ 08:43PM PT

  23. Marie Martinez

    *sigh* Reposting because SOME PEOPLE are overly sensitive to "profanity".

    IN RESPONSE TO: "The issue isn't sex and violence in the media. That's not the problem. The problem is PEOPLE, who feel that they can treat other people in such a subhuman way.

    And please, don't turn this into an attempt to proselytize. I've been there and done that, your "god" did NOTHING for me. In fact, it was being a Christan, and believing the Bible, that set me up to be abused.

    If you don't like what's shown in movies and on television, you can simply CHANGE THE CHANNEL, or TURN IT OFF."

    .......... As a victim myself, never did I once blame God for what happened to me. God should not be blamed for the concious or unconcious decisions made by man. It is niave to believe that everything in this world can be understood. We have yet to understand what goes on in the mind of others... yet alone in how God works. Life is not black and white... although the circumstances around us may feel as such. BUT we do have a choice and if your choice is to displace your anger on to someone or something then you have done nothing more but imprision yourself for life. I was able to forgive the person who did this to me and as a result I've been blessed the gift of freedom and the person who did this to me as well. I won't lie, it takes time.

    Posted by Marie Martinez on 12/16/2009 @ 07:20PM PT

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Sixteen years ago, Mark Horvath was homeless on the streets of Hollywood. Today, he works in marketing/communications and is an activist for the homeless. He vlogs at invisiblepeople.tv and blogs at hardlynormal.com.

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